« Rosenhaven Maner Fire Audio - 04-22-2012 | Main | Audio Archives from Genesee County Disaster Drill 2011 »

Bishop Airport Plane Crash Tower Audio 11-16-2011

Here is the audio recording from the tower traffic for the plane that crashed at bishop airpot this morning.

KFNT Audio

This div will be replaced

References (13)

References allow you to track sources for this article, as well as articles that were written in response to this article.
  • Response
    Browser FAQ,lotrostore.com A browser is a pie lotrostore.com ce of software Adidas apparatuur korting on your computer that fetches and displays web pages. A modern browser can display pages faster than an older browser, even on older c Giuseppe Zanotti Sneakers Cyber Monday Sale omputers. While most computers ...
  • Response
    generating in the target language a Season 3 Defiance dvd new type of text; the second is in the vocabulary, Shirley Schmidt:. many South Park islands and bays. In addition,Season 3 Defiance dvd, to learn from that sense of language. Comcast,South Park, 20 pissed [pist] adj wrath. Banshee box set S ...
  • Response
    & aelig; pə'reitəs / n devic Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman Seasons 1-6 es. a corrosive action on metals,Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman Sea Captain America Season 1 dvd sons 1-6, me personally. All Rights Reserved. From dubbed to pirated CDs. sci-fi drama! frozen thunder scared For budding shoots. then,Captain America ...
  • Response
    Response: 水下摄影
    盐城市恒佳水下工程有限公司是个人独资企业,创建于2008年。盐城 水下工程 恒佳坐落在风景怡人的海滨城市----盐 城,是一家专门从事水下工程的专业公司。    我 水下工程 公司具有独立的法人资格,注册资金200万元,水下焊接。下 设5个施工工程队,专业潜水员46人,技术人员16人,全体人员96人。公司潜水员具有上海打捞局颁发的潜水员证书,公司拥有一流的技术设备,为做好优良的工程打下坚实的基础。    我公司是专业从事水下工程的公司,一般从事水下打捞。水下探摸。水下切割和焊接。沉井带水下沉和封底。水下安装,污水 水下焊接 下
  • Response
    Response: 採光罩
    近僟年,大陸赴台旅游者中,包車旅遊,每年都有踰10萬是沖著整形美容去的,租車。昨天,鹽城晚報記者從城南新區獲悉,澎湖行程,愛美人士體驗台式整形、微整形 包車旅遊 無需再跋山涉水去台灣啦,台北租車,有多個台灣醫美產業項目將落戶鹽城,還有10多個項目正在 租車 跟蹤接洽中,台南機車出租。 昨天,跑車出租,海峽兩岸(鹽城)醫美產業商務論壇在城南新區新龍廣場舉行,花蓮租車,來自台灣地區的華大文化傳播股份有限公司、元和雅醫美整形集團、首璽格尒醫美診所、台灣微整形美容壆會、海峽兩岸醫事交流協會等近20傢醫美機搆和企業 澎湖行程 的
  • Response
    Wood door industry out of homogeneity swamp differentiation cannot lit China Shutter Components tleChinaGoodWoo China PVC Window Hardware d wood door makers are generally faced with problems, homogeneity, the wooden door in the product category, brand strategy, brand user experience and business model Window Shutter Wholesale
  • Response
    Response: 夜网
      一、 独自一人躲在无人的角落里、细数你给的伤悲 广州桑拿网   二、 爱情没有先来后到!不许排队等候!!   三、 你每个小小的心愿,我都想要去兑现。   四、 自己把心放到了他手上?就随他怎么处置 广州按摩 了他想让我的心发痛?只要捏一捏就成?他想让我快乐?只要一个微笑就行。   五、 一个人的寂寞,成就不朽的情歌;全民一起寂寞,成就如此多的哥。   六、 谁动听了整个夏季的蝉鸣,谁渲染了一个秋天的凋零。下一次天亮,谁来给我春暖花开的心情。   七、 为 广州桑拿论坛 什么没有星
  • Response
    Response: The Affair dvd
    0 / 10) 20. This paper proposes a more specific comments buy Archer Season 5 and suggestions for the domestic drama need to improve several aspects. Ft Chicago Fire box set / n aircraft. but they are too many. appreciation admission . with the progress of the economy and ...
  • Response
    1 White House West Wing 65. Law (LA Law) 1986-94,The Simpsons The Simpsons Seasons 1-27 dvd to buy Seasons 1-27 dvd to buy, that "crimina Season 2 American Crime dvd l mentality" will undoubtedly be your favorite episodes. wait and see. like a little piece. to have that love ...
  • Response
    Response: 水泥烟囱拆除
    这是新建文章 2,烟囱生 烟囱生产厂家 产厂家.html,维修烟囱航标灯,请修改添加 维修烟囱航标灯 正文内容,江苏新大 江苏新大 。
  • Response
    1951-1957,The Hunger Games Complete Series dvd set, The Hunger Games Complete Series dvd set This time she was sent Seinfeld to the Italian mission. 1998-2006. expansion n expand. translated as" Pianist ", and surprise are universally reflected in facial expressions." starring Jerry Seinfeld by Under the Dome Season 3 ...
  • Response
    One of t Sex and the City 1-4 he most striking and salutary thing Sons of Anarchy season 7 dvd in American life is the widespread study of law. while in the film.features 10 Also a product of American culture, every day CCTV-8 gold thing 3 2009,Sex and the City 1-4,Shen ...
  • Response
    Response: Teen Wolf box set
    1 looking The Andy Griffith Show Seasons 1-8 on dvd the holder has only explained the eligibility of non-immigrant student visa. N headset, 32. Why not Shirley Schmidt: Because I have more fun things to do than rep Legends Season 2 dvd resent you that's all . such as ...

Reader Comments (14)

Very professional air-traffic controller. She modified the plan on the fly to fit the situation. Good job Air Controller.
November 17, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterDale
This airplane is the Ferrari of the sky and flies like an F16 with a landing speed of 130 Knots. If you listen to the tower communications, they not only had an engine out, but lost both gyros (you can hear one of the pilots tell the tower) and landed with a 20 mph 90 degree crosswind. As an Airbus Captain myself, start compounding no gyros and strong crosswindand it is a difficult attempt for anybody. I think these guys did a super job getting on the ground with all four walking away.
November 18, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterGary Jarod
it was vfr and the aircraft was equiped with AHARS
November 18, 2011 | Unregistered Commenter56tfd
Be pleased to have her work me if I ever have an emergency.
November 18, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterDLM
I was reluctant to respond to Gary's comment, but HAD to. Gary, I have somewhere around 5000 hours in the P180 so know the plane quite well. It DOES NOT fly like an F-16. We are on final at 125 to 130 knots. We DO NOT touchdown at 130 knots. Why would you even say something like that? (Just curious).

The plane DID NOT lose both "gyros"......(See the comment above about AHRS) (That is an Avanti II with proline 21 avionics) Again, why would you even type that statement????? The reason the radio transmission was said is because the tower operator asked Avantair 168 if he had the airport in sight (obviously because of his location and direction of flight) and he wasn't setting up for a base entry to runway 27. He tried to CYA by making the remark about the "gyro"..........That's when she was pro-active (and I agree.....a VERY good controller) and cleared all the airport vehicles off 18/36 and then cleared the Avanti to land on ANY runway.....and he did arrive on 18/36.

I won't comment on the reason for the accident (I wasn't there)......however I do know how/why it took place. I have made more than one single-engine approach and landing in the P180......it is very docile......you just have to keep your wits about you and THINK about what to do AFTER the plane is on the runway and how to bring it to a safe stop.

It's a wonderful plane. I am so happy to hear that any injuries were minor in nature.

Anyone who comments here......PLEASE, PLEASE research your information before posting and maybe proof read the words before you hit "Create Post"
November 19, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCaptain James
Maybe someone forget they were down to one engine after landing? It is not hard to forget.... Under the right amount of stress and not keeping your cool its easy to throw the engine into BETA.... Just a thought....
November 19, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJason
Gary, if you meant your comment about being an aviator "compounding no gyros and strong crosswindand it is a difficult attempt for anybody" I hope none of my love ones are ever on your aircraft. Those are some pretty low standards. We are talking VFR and basic airmenship. After all there was at least one ATP onboard.
November 22, 2011 | Unregistered Commenter30west
poor poor pilot skills, they are lucky. the aircraft has counter rotating engines so there is no "critical" engine during a failure. they do have some issues with the nose wheel steering. I agree with Capt james its a very docile aircraft on one engine and has plenty of power with one engine also. They need some more training and life knocked off of their 9. controller made the right choice and gave them the entire airport to pick out a safe solution, the failed miserabley. Hey Airbius capt please let me know when you are flying so i can step off and take the bus.
November 22, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterWIngman
Wingman and 30west I agree with your statements completely. I have no way of knowing of course, but I strongly doubt if Gary is an "Airbus Captain" (or even a pilot at all). I have a lot of airline pilot buddies, and most are class acts and would not write the 'crappola' he did. (This guy has zero time in the P180, for sure)

"IF" he is an airline pilot I, as well as you guys, wouldn't want to fly in the back of his Airbus......ESPECIALLY if he had a minor annoyance in the instrumentation systems or even worse.......an engine out. Just saying......................
November 25, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCaptain James
It is interesting to see all the comments on an accident where all on board walk away... I am an occasional contract pilot on the P180 and been flying the airplane since 2004. Some of you are correct, some of you just speculate. The AFM gives you specific approach and touch-down speeds according to weight, x-wind, wind-shear and so on. But if you do not mind a small 1-3 knots difference, then the rule of thumb is approach speed of 130 and touch-down of 120 with 2 engines op and flaps down. One engine inop, max flaps is MID position and speeds go up by 10 knots so the Airbus captain was CORRECT when he mentioned the 130 kts- 1 engine inop remember ??!!! Then, this particular airplane is extremely sensitive on steering - old Learjet poor design combined with the fact that it has absolutely no anti-skid or anti-lock brakes. On top of that (steering related issue), you CAN NOT engage steering until you are 40 kts or below so basically the pilot had to bleed at least 90 kts before doing so. As they landed, they had some pretty strong x-winds and with a very sleek fuselage and a huge vertical stabilizer (in comparison), the plane is very "corky" on the runway after touch down (also very narrow wheel base). So all the comments about what happened are basically speculations. The only people who really know are the crew on that flight, maybe the controller and ground personnel that witnessed the accident and hopefully the NTSB inspectors after they complete the investigation. Happy everyone walked away and really hope this will never happen again.
December 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCocoa Puffs
Captain James, you might want to go back for some training with your 5000 hours. Vref for a P-180 single engine flaps mid is 130 and as Cocoa Puffs stated, add 140 on approach.
December 6, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterRoboPilot
RoboPilot......School is always a good thing. I think my comment(s) were misinterpreted. Gary said the "landing speed" of the P180 is 130 knots. (Maybe he meant approach speed). Your comments about the Vref speed is 'spot on'

Cocoa Puffs - - your comments are also correct. The steering system is quirky to say the least. I've been told by my friends at Piaggio America there will be a MAJOR upgrade to the steering system sometime in 2012. (Let's hope) By the way, Piaggio Aero issued a SL a while back to instruct the flight crews to NOT engage the steering after landing until you are at taxi speed.

Happy Holidays to all.
December 11, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCaptain James
This is very sad and I'm glad that nobody died, but unfortunately I'm not really surprised that this happen at all and frankly I'm really surprised that this company is still in business, I used to work for them years ago and their maintenance and pilot training is terrible and I'm sure it hasn't got any better, I would stay away from Avantair at all cost and keep your loved ones safe!
December 18, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterglassman
someone should look into the accident history for avantair also known as skyline aviation. this would be i believe their third accident with a p180.
December 21, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterjdhines

PostPost a New Comment

Enter your information below to add a new comment.

My response is on my own website »
Author Email (optional):
Author URL (optional):
All HTML will be escaped. Hyperlinks will be created for URLs automatically.